黑旗会咏春拳是最大的谎言 Black flag wing chun???

[Pak Mei Lion]

关於咏春拳的一些看法－－驳居心叵测之徒　

　　（中国新闻快讯）　近日电影叶问与咏春拳的放映令人们对中国文化再起热潮，各种评论纷至，有位山东籍的 赵元先生，报社投稿，发表了一篇令人深思的文章。

　　　赵先生陈述如下：“在看完电影《叶问》后，其儿子在美国网路上看到一位自称教授咏春拳的美国华人，竟 胡言乱语称黑旗会与少林寺咏春拳有关。这实在是对中国历史和武林野史不认识，不了解或别有用心 的鼠辈。

　　　我原籍山东，我祖父母一家全死在黑旗会土匪之乱。当年日本侵略我东三省，，五旗会是山东一带的响马贼 ，五旗会中，尤以黑旗会最令人发指，盖因该会实为汉奸，帮日本人杀害中国民众与军人，这在中国近代史上是有 案可稽的。

中国武术在国外很受欢迎，但是有一些居心不良的骗子在国外竟敢篡改历史，称这帮五旗会土匪为反清复明的地下 组织，实在是最大的谎言。黑旗会的土匪如其名---心很黑：替日本鬼子杀害无数中国同胞。现在，我竟在网上看到这样一位认贼作父的美国华人混蛋在胡言乱语，其 所作所为实在是令每个中国人忍无可忍，这与日本人否认南京大屠杀有何分别？是对我中国人的最大侮辱。这是咱 们中国人的无知，还是恶梦不散？我们中国人不能麻木了，站起来戳穿汉奸嘴脸，捍卫武林尊严！

讀者 赵元

Black flag wing chun??? 黑旗会咏春拳是最大的谎言 – from Zhao Yuan
China News Express

Chinese to English translation

Some views on Wing Chun - Refuting the ulterior motive of the believers

(China News Express) and Wing Chun’s “Ip Man” recent film screening is renewing enthusiasm for Chinese culture and history. All kinds of comments and divergent thinking were generated from a native of Shandong Province, Mr. Zhao Yuan, a newspaper contributor, who published a thought-provoking article.
Mr. Zhao stated as follows:

"In watching the movie, "Ip Man" and after his grandson saw on the internet that a Chinese American in the United States claim to teach Wing Chun. Actually it was a lot of nonsense that stated black flag is related to Shaolin Wing Chun. This is unofficial Chinese history and the Martial Arts community does not know, understand or understand the ulterior motive.

I am a native of Shandong Province; my grandparents were killed by black flag bandit rebels. During this time the Japanese had invaded Manchuria and used black flag. Black flag was one of the five flag societies in Shandong Province. The five flags were Horse Thieves, robbers and killers, especially black flag was the most heinous. Black flag, the puppet of the Japanese, were the real traitors. Black flag helped the Japanese kill Chinese people and soldiers; this is all well documented in modern day Chinese history.

Chinese martial arts are very popular abroad, but there are some ill-intentioned liars who dare tamper with history of foreign countries. It is said that the bandit gang of five flag was an underground organization for the anti-Manchurian, but it is the biggest lie! Black Flags is the name of bandits with hearts of black: for many Chinese patriots who were killed by Japanese devils and black flag. Now, to see such lies on the internet, is betrayal to give himself glory, it’s not right that this Chinese bastard in the United States spread nonsense, hypocrisy and pain. His behavior is that every Chinese who died was no different than the Japanese denying the Nanjing Massacre! What is the difference? For me this is the greatest insult in my life to the Chinese people! Is this our Chinese people's ignorance or nightmare ghost? We, Chinese, cannot be numb, stand up and expose traitors! Martial artist defend our dignity! “

[Pak Mei Lion]

(中共历史) 史料显示，民国时期山东是全国土匪问题最为严重的省份之一。据统计，1918年，山东约30个州县曾拥有土 匪三万多名，1918年到1930年，山东境内的土匪人数超过20万人。山东土匪都是有武装、有组织的，大 的成千累万，具有较强的战斗力（如刘桂棠部号称黑旗会土匪为「黑旗军」，曾流窜整个华北）。抗战时期，五旗 会中的黑旗会、红旗会、黄旗会、蓝旗会、白旗会,日寇利用一些不满中共政策的黑旗会土匪屠杀中国民众和军人 .

[Pak Mei Lion]

Chinese martial arts are very popular abroad, but there are some ill-intentioned liars who dare tamper with history of foreign countries. It is said that the bandit gang of five flag was an underground organization for the anti-Manchurian, but it is the biggest lie! Black Flags is the name of bandits with hearts of black: for many Chinese patriots who were killed by Japanese devils and black flag. Now, to see such lies on the internet, is betrayal to give himself glory, it’s not right that this Chinese bastard in the United States spread nonsense, hypocrisy and pain. His behavior is that every Chinese who died was no different than the Japanese denying the Nanjing Massacre! What is the difference? For me this is the greatest insult in my life to the Chinese people! Is this our Chinese people's ignorance or nightmare ghost? We, Chinese, cannot be numb, stand up and expose traitors! Martial artist defend our dignity! “

Nanjing Massacre: 300,000 Chinese People Killed, 20,000 Women Raped

Scarred by history: The Rape of Nanjing Between December 1937 and March 1938 one of the worst massacres in modern times took place. Japanese troops captured the Chinese city of Nanjing and embarked on a campaign of murder, rape and looting.

http://www.cnd.org/njmassacre

[FutSau70]

It is said that the bandit gang of five flag was an underground organization for the anti-Manchurian, but it is the biggest lie!

black flag, yellow flag, red flag, blue flag and green flag are all bandits...

Black Flags is the name of bandits with hearts of black: for many Chinese patriots who were killed by Japanese devils and black flag. Now, to see such lies on the internet, is betrayal to give himself glory, it’s not right that this Chinese bastard in the United States spread nonsense, hypocrisy and pain. His behavior is that every Chinese who died was no different than the Japanese denying the Nanjing Massacre! What is the difference? For me this is the greatest insult in my life to the Chinese people! Is this our Chinese people's ignorance or nightmare ghost? We, Chinese, cannot be numb, stand up and expose traitors! Martial artist defend our dignity! “

who's this chinese bastard?

[Savi]

Originally Posted by Pak Mei Lion

Nanjing Massacre: 300,000 Chinese People Killed, 20,000 Women Raped

Scarred by history: The Rape of Nanjing Between December 1937 and March 1938 one of the worst massacres in modern times took place. Japanese troops captured the Chinese city of Nanjing and embarked on a campaign of murder, rape and looting.

http://www.cnd.org/njmassacre

Absolutely tragic (talk about hell on earth). I don't think the word "bandit" suits them. I don't think there is a word of any tongue to accurately describe this. Might as well throw this one in with people who deny the The Holocaust of the Jews.

Black Hearts indeed, but I don't think those demons have/had any hearts to begin with.

[Pak Mei Lion]

Black Flag Wing Chun Training with Master Kenneth Lin*
Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun with Suhu Kenneth Lin*
*Current leader of the Hek Ki Boen Lineage

QUESTION 1. Where did Kenneth Lin learn his VT from?

Ip Man >Wong Shun Leung>Divid Peterson>Victor Leow>Chung Che Man>Kenneth Lin
Sum Nung>Yuan Zhu Tang>Victor Leow>Chung Che Man>Kenneth Lin
Ip Man>Chu Shong Tin>Others>Victor Leow>Chung Che Man>Kenneth Lin

WONG SHUN LEUNG VT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRNrY...eature=related
Sum Nung VT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVhRMzywe6Y
Grandmaster Chu Shong Tin Authentic Wing Chun Compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUZkNxq7A1Y

QUESTION 2. Why did he call Lo Han kung fu as male kung fu?

Tio Tik Kwie: (Lo Han kung fu)> Kenneth Lin

Lo Han Kung Fu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2CX_adDjfo

QUESTION 3. Where did this so-called Black Flag VT come from?

Kenneth Lin's old website
http://web.archive.org/web/200506230...m/lineage.html

QUESTION 4. Were there 5 flag VT from Shaolin Temple?

Black Flag videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwm3zhjBcGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5clXh0PPA1g

[Jonathan_AZ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIdJt...eature=related

Listen at 3:00. now they have manuscripts that verify this version of black flag (along with all the other flags)? Will be interesting to see what these actually say....